I'm saying this with absolutely no backup from Mr. Googles, but I think he has/had some crazy, crazy contract with Mad Men that he had to find loopholes to do other stuff. He did voice work in another movie whose title is escaping me and couldn't be credited for that reason. Not sure it works the same way when he is very clearly and provably IN this movie, but maybe that's why.
He's nicer than me, too, because as much as I loved this movie, her actual character pissed me off to no end. I have/had a friend just like her who I actually kicked out of my wedding party because she went off the rails in a similar fashion right before my wedding. I guess that makes me a bad friend, but it was seriously nuts. All I could think watching that movie is how she was probably hardcore identifying with the protagonist and going "SEE?! EndangeredRed is a bad friend that doesn't understand my self-inflicted PAIN."
Well, you are just crazy, but I feel ya. My college roommate just about punched me in the face one time because I wouldn't let it go about Molly Ringwald and Ducky in Pretty in Pink.
Thank you! I feel like I make some version of this comment every damn time this discussion comes up on Jez. It's a feminist blind spot or something.
You've GOT to be kidding me.
A few things can save you bundles of money if you can make them work: cloth diapers (which are great nowadays. I honestly think we have an easier time of it than our friends who use disposables), exclusive followed by extended breast feeding, buying used as you mentioned, and getting into a little circle of moms who pass clothes around. I probably haven't technically NEEDED to buy clothes for my 9 month old yet, between the fact that people freaking love to buy outfits for baby girls and generous hand-me-downers.
We've been incredibly lucky to be able to do all of the above. We make next to no money, but I get to work from home about half of the time and the hubs stays home when I am at work. I'd say our monthly kid generated expenses are closer to $50 a month than $100, but that is with zero child care and no diaper costs other than one or two extra hot water washes per week. There are some serious startup costs, but we didn't feel a lot of the hurt on this thanks to getting a hand me down crib, a gifted stroller and I bought a breast pump from this awesome lady on Craigslist who ended up giving me a gigantic bag of breastfeeding gear and bottles, etc.
We've been incredibly lucky to be able to do all of the above. We make next to no money, but I get to work from home about half of the time and the hubs stays home when I am at work. I'd say our monthly kid generated expenses are closer to $50 a month than $100, but that is with zero child care and no diaper costs other than one or two extra hot water washes per week. There are some serious startup costs, but we didn't feel a lot of the hurt on this thanks to getting a hand me down crib, a gifted stroller and I bought a breast pump from this awesome lady on Craigslist who ended up giving me a gigantic bag of breastfeeding gear and bottles, etc.
Oh, and I just saw Sheriff Valenti on Fringe!
Well, Tess was on Lost, Michael is a semi-recurring character on Bones. I think Shiri Applebee was in that show about the parents who re-adopted their kid they gave up for adoption?
They will never top the hunting episode. I must agree, that's when I fell in love.
Uh, yeah, wow. I pushed for 20-30 minutes. I can't even fathom 8 hours.
Don't you mean WIN? Because, you, ya know, have cookies in your freezer!
Agreed! I broke even within a few months and if I keep going through potty training, I should save a few thousand. I also only wash twice a week if I'm on top of it.
I got into it to save money (and we have saved SO much. I know us, we would intend to buy only in bulk at Costco, but we'd be running out all the time and running to the nearest store to buy a small package for a million dollars or however much diapers cost) and ended up loving it even more for how cute they are. I love how she can be pants-less at no cost to the adorableness of her outfit. Also must agree on the puffy bum! Once I had her in a disposable and I thought I was going to drop her. So much less butt to grab on to!
I got into it to save money (and we have saved SO much. I know us, we would intend to buy only in bulk at Costco, but we'd be running out all the time and running to the nearest store to buy a small package for a million dollars or however much diapers cost) and ended up loving it even more for how cute they are. I love how she can be pants-less at no cost to the adorableness of her outfit. Also must agree on the puffy bum! Once I had her in a disposable and I thought I was going to drop her. So much less butt to grab on to!
I don't have stats on hand to directly refute that, but I suspect you might have read that info from a source that may have an investment in promoting disposables. In all of my diaper research, that was the only place I read stuff like that. Sure, if you wash 6-8 diapers in every load, never mix other laundry with your diapers, do a wash or more every day, you are probably not being as environmentally conscientious as you could be. However, it's environmental apples and oranges, in a way. There are many ways to circumvent or cut down on your energy usage, even with cloth diapers being a factor, but there is no way to make those thousands of disposables you use biodegrade in overflowing landfills and there is no way to keep the chemicals from seeping back into the ground.
I do about 2-3 diaper loads every week and I wash half or more of my diapers in every load on the smallest load setting. I hang dry all but the cotton diapers and dry those with other laundry. I'll throw in towels or baby clothes that are particularly messy into the wash as well, and since the weather has been nice for her whole life thus far, the diapers are all she wears most of the time, so as of yet, I wouldn't say it's increased my water or energy usage more than the average baby in an average household typically does.
All that to say I totally understand why people would use disposables. As awesome as I think cloth is, it IS more work, especially if you don't have a good washer or you have hard water or a heavy wetter, etc. I've been lucky enough to not really run into many issues with cloth, so I find it straightforward and simple and I really don't even know what I'm missing with disposables. I just know the diaper industry has really pushed the idea that cloth is just as bad for the environment and that's simply not true.
ETA: Reading this back, I realize I sound totally lentil-y and judgmental...not my intention! I don't at all think parents are under some kind of obligation to the planet to cloth diaper and I realize that there are tons of situations in which cloth is just not a viable option. But I just like to stick up for it whenever I can because it gets made fun of so often and I really and truly love it and believe it's good for your baby's butt and good (better) for the environment in the long run. I may be re-evaluating its awesomeness when my baby starts solids and her poop gets nasty, but so far, it's been well worth it for us.
I do about 2-3 diaper loads every week and I wash half or more of my diapers in every load on the smallest load setting. I hang dry all but the cotton diapers and dry those with other laundry. I'll throw in towels or baby clothes that are particularly messy into the wash as well, and since the weather has been nice for her whole life thus far, the diapers are all she wears most of the time, so as of yet, I wouldn't say it's increased my water or energy usage more than the average baby in an average household typically does.
All that to say I totally understand why people would use disposables. As awesome as I think cloth is, it IS more work, especially if you don't have a good washer or you have hard water or a heavy wetter, etc. I've been lucky enough to not really run into many issues with cloth, so I find it straightforward and simple and I really don't even know what I'm missing with disposables. I just know the diaper industry has really pushed the idea that cloth is just as bad for the environment and that's simply not true.
ETA: Reading this back, I realize I sound totally lentil-y and judgmental...not my intention! I don't at all think parents are under some kind of obligation to the planet to cloth diaper and I realize that there are tons of situations in which cloth is just not a viable option. But I just like to stick up for it whenever I can because it gets made fun of so often and I really and truly love it and believe it's good for your baby's butt and good (better) for the environment in the long run. I may be re-evaluating its awesomeness when my baby starts solids and her poop gets nasty, but so far, it's been well worth it for us.
That's good to know! I usually have ridiculous periods and I chose Mirena over Paragard to help with that, but so far it's been like one long, nasty, not-so-heavy period.
You don't have periods with Mirena? Was that right away, because I've had mine for 4 months and had 2 periods post-baby?
Some of us in this decade do use cloth diapers, although rather than spending money on diamond safety pins, she could just invest in more expensive and better designed cloth diapers that don't require pins.
Right? He must really love that baby...
I didn't think I had pooped, but my husband just had to shatter that illusion by telling me that he FLICKED IT out of the way so our daughter wouldn't get poop on her head!
Wow. Best comment of ever.
Thanks! I now, as a 26 year old, feel equipped for my future retirement home singalongs.
