Couples getting together doesn't ruin shows, but dragging flirtations out for years before the couple gets together can ruin shows. The idea of a relationship gets so built up by shippers that they'll never be satisfied while the remainder are just tired of watching it.
Did you hear his comments on the list? Assuming he isn't lying, she way overstated things in her letter. She's responsible for her own laundry and bed making, plus sweeping two rooms, unloading the dishwasher, and wiping down the counters. That doesn't seem like a crazy amount for a 15 year old. It is a lot of stuff, but they're all quick. I knew kids when I was that age who were responsible for cooking family dinners on designated days and even at 15 I didn't think that was crazy.
Someone I know with young kids said that a couple of months ago and I rolled my eyes. Then I caught a couple of minutes of a show on Disney in which a teenage boy was happy grandma died because he'd get her car.

Jessie Spano might have had a speed problem, but I can't imagine any of the Saved by the Bell Kids or Clarissa being happy grandma died.

I don't really see how being expected to do regular chores destroys childhood. I'm not saying 5 year olds should be scrubbing the bathroom, but I have my 5 and 8 year old cousins set the table when I babysit them and they sort of appreciate the responsibility.
I didn't really have chores growing up and its made me in favor of giving children chores. The habits you have as a kid kind of set you up for adulthood. I'm not totally slovenly, but I think I would be neater if slightly more responsibility had been put on me as a kid.
Can't you just report her to Facebook? You're not supposed to have an account under age 13.
Work laws depend on the state, but I know in mine you could get working papers at 14 or so but no one was really willing to hire the under 16s. I babysat before then.
Dad is a little bit nut-so. What stood out to me the most wasn't the chores or even the shooting, it was the fact that she'd been grounded for three months before for something similar. Three months is a crazy long time to be grounded for what basically amounts to backtalk.

But I don't have a problem with him spying on her Facebook page. Clearly she didn't really understand how public social media is before but I bet she does now.

The information you're looking for has to do with the risks of adolescent childbearing the pattern of female puberty. Also helpful are historic data pre-birth control. Even when women marry very young, peak fertility is in the woman's 20s.

You're clearly into evo psych, but evo psych is heavy on the bullshit.

You keep saying all societies have a preference for young girls, as if women young and old are not a part of society. You're ignoring the fact that lots of cultures have historic marriage ages in the 20-25 age range. Sure, India has a long history of marrying off 12 year olds for various cultural reasons, but the lowest average age for marriage in the US was 20 in the 1950s. Historically, marrying very young girls was unusual in Europe. Some countries (particularly in Eastern Europe) married girls <16 and royal women often married that young, but the average European peasant woman married in her 20s.

And again, you're ignoring the role marriage plays in all this. The point of marriage is to maximize the number of children from a legitimate union, which is a good reason to marry very young girls. It doesn't tell us anything about evolution.

"Recent studies have also shown that babies prefer younger women" Didn't you just get that from the citation you linked which has no specific mention of age (meaning young could mean 20-40 vs. 40+ with no significant distinction between 20 and 35). But even that is meaningless. Babies generally stare at female faces longer than male faces. Lots of theories have been posited about that- women are more childlike, etc. But then someone looked exclusively at the children of stay at home dads and guess what? They looked at male faces longer. So the fact that babies prefer "young" (whatever that means) female faces may simply be a product of mothers tending to be young. And this is why evo psych is mostly bullshit. It is incredibly difficult to rule out other causes but incredibly easily to create evolutionary theories.

Dude, you're googling and ignoring the many results that put peak fertility at 22-26. And you ignored the points I made above because they didn't agree with you.
Where all the male posters are from......

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There is one critical thing you're ignoring with your comments about marriage age, if women get married at 17, there are very few 30 year old women to marry. So you can't really say that 17 year olds are vastly preferred because they're the bulk of the marriage market and there are all kinds of cultural assumptions about marriage. If women can choose their partners, they're not simply being selected by the men, they're making decisions based on their life goals.

Traditionally, having a lot of children was important since many of them will die. So marrying a woman on the cusp of fertility makes the most sense- the man then has access to her entire reproductive life. However, cave people didn't practice life long marriage, so evolution didn't create the tendency to marry young women, culture did. Conversely, if you look at census records, you'll see widowers often married women their age or older in part because it limited the children they would add to the marriage and in part because women generally want to marry men close to them in age.

Fertility information on the internet doesn't tend to focus on teenagers, but it is pretty widely known that 26 years olds have better odds of delivering a healthy baby than 16 year olds. It can take a couple of years for a girl's period to regulate and one of the final stages of puberty in women is a widening of the hips.

I am by nature, really messy. But I've never let trash or dishes pile up for days. That gets into slovenly, health code violation territory.

I see two options here: either he is on some level, waiting you out, or he is by nature filthy dirty.

Either way it is going to be hard to change his behavior and more difficult the longer you live together. You can try to talk to him about setting a schedule for himself, like a half an hour before he goes to bed he washes dishes and checks to see if the trash needs to be taken out and/or you can stop holding up your end of the bargain.

One thing that stands out to me is that you're doing what looks like 2-3 hours of cleaning a week while he is doing 1-1.5 hours. #Groupthink

Was this cross posted somewhere? There seem to be an unusually high number of male comments for Jezebel.

Guys who are into jailbait like to use the youth and fertility argument, but like Hugo pointed out teenagers aren't especially fertile. There also not generally the hottest, adolescence can be very awkward and contemporary people aren't worn down in their mid 20s.

I think a lot of it has to do with power. I've noticed that in my personal experience and stories from friends, the creepiest behavior women experience tends to come before you can drink legally. And it isn't teen boys being creepy, it is grown men who are being creepy. In high school, I tended to read as slightly older than I was, college aged rather than high school aged. The guys I actually liked who misread my age without fail ran away when I my age came up, but there was a subset of guys (often much older) who clearly were more interested and pushed a little harder when they realized I was 15 instead of 19. Younger girls have a hard time telling off creeps and the creeps tend to recognize it. I have trouble sorting photos of me at 19 of photos of me at 23, yet something about me changed because the creepy attention fell off a cliff around 21.

You think this contradict's the fact the idea that fertility peaks between 22 and 26?

Fertility isn't as simple as getting your period, it can take a couple of years for your period to regulate and successful childbearing (aka mother and baby surviving) is more likely when you're over 20 because you're biologically more developed.

Gravy train? It isn't a profit making organization. Some non-profits plan to close up shop when a specific goal is met, others shift their focus a little.

Really, it isn't like a cure to breast cancer is going to happen any day now.

I've seen this complaint that they don't spend enough on research, which surprises me. I guess the whole "Race for the Cure" thing implies they mostly do all medical research, but the big health charities (American Cancer, American Lung, etc) put a lot of their spending into awareness, support groups, patient care, etc.

Who knows if he even means infant register. Lots of people only think of baby talk as nonsense words and don't realize their voice changes when they talk to babies.
I really wonder what people mean by baby talk. Goo-goo ga-ga? Not many people do that in real life.

What people do with babies is raise the pitch of their voice and draw out letters, particularly vowels. Not everyone does it, but it is pretty common across cultures and I'm sure a lot of people don't even realize their doing it.

Plus what celebs says they are doing with their children doesn't necessarily say that much. I have no idea what NPH's situation is, but 2-3 rotating nannies (weekday, nights, and weekends) isn't uncommon among the very wealthy.

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