The best advice my mom ever gave me was "don't trust a man with a pinky ring". Love her.
God what brats. My mom wouldn't have allowed a snotty apology like that from me. She'd have made me actually apologize for using offensive slurs, not for "responding to comments".
Way to instill accountability and responsibility in your daughters, Sarah Palin.
Way to instill accountability and responsibility in your daughters, Sarah Palin.
@awer25: Sounds easy - let me guess, your name isn't Muhammad or Faruq.
Ok question for bleach lovers or cleaning mavens - my dishwasher STINKS. I see mildew in it around the bottom (so gross I know). Should I run a cycle with the dishwasher empty except for some bleach? That's what the internet said, but can that be safe? Anyone do something that worked for them??
Feel free to respond whether or not you are Hispanic. :)
Feel free to respond whether or not you are Hispanic. :)
@embarcadero13: Yes, Jezzies have anecdotal evidence. But my guess is that Clorox has loads of consumer research and sales data. Most big companies like this don't just sit around in a room and launch marketing strategies without data to back it up.
@krismry: My guess is they did research and looked at women who self-identify as "Hispanic". There are probably differences based on nation-of-origin, income, education, length of time spend in US, etc. And the sophisticated ladies in telenovelas probably aren't cleaning their own homes with anything, Clorox or otherwise.
@krismry: My guess is they did research and looked at women who self-identify as "Hispanic". There are probably differences based on nation-of-origin, income, education, length of time spend in US, etc. And the sophisticated ladies in telenovelas probably aren't cleaning their own homes with anything, Clorox or otherwise.
@maribella: Haha that's funny. Washing dishes with Clorox?? I was thinking of putting some bleach in my stinky dishwasher but wasn't sure if it'd be safe - sounds like it would be...
Anyway, it IS an interesting insight if Hispanic consumers are cleaning even more during the holidays b/c they don't want family and friends judging the cleanliness of their homes. I'm white, and of course I clean before people come over, but I don't like, scrub the tiles with bleach so my sister doesn't raise her eyebrows, you know?
Anyway, it IS an interesting insight if Hispanic consumers are cleaning even more during the holidays b/c they don't want family and friends judging the cleanliness of their homes. I'm white, and of course I clean before people come over, but I don't like, scrub the tiles with bleach so my sister doesn't raise her eyebrows, you know?
@Azraelle: That's ok, I'm sure people (Latina and otherwise) who don't clean their own homes or buy their own cleaning supplies are not Clorox's target!
Oh jeez. Look, the CMO of Clorox didn't say one day, "Hey, my maid is Mexican and she's been cleaning houses since she was 16! Let's have our new marketing strategy be about cleaning as a rite of passage for Hispanics!" I don't see anything racist about doing research into a growing consumer market and learning how their cleaning habits and product choices may be different from other groups. Of course Clorox wants to sell more bleach. They're not making products just for the fun of it.
And nobody is suggesting cleaning supplies are a "matrilineal tradition", but it is true that in the cleaning category, women often select brands that their mothers used. After all, most women learn how to "keep their home" based on their mothers' example. I don't feel insulted that, like, Pledge knows I use their product b/c my mom used it in her house, so when it came time for me to buy my own, that's what I picked.
Anyway, I don't understand the problem. If 53% of Latina women listen to music while they clean, and Spanish pop is the most common music choice.... why is that objectionable? Is listening to music while cleaning a BAD thing? If Clorox had an ad showing a woman cleaning while listening to music somehow be offensive to Hispanics? Would it be somehow insulting if a study showed that Hispanic women tend to clean their homes more often with bleach than other women?
And nobody is suggesting cleaning supplies are a "matrilineal tradition", but it is true that in the cleaning category, women often select brands that their mothers used. After all, most women learn how to "keep their home" based on their mothers' example. I don't feel insulted that, like, Pledge knows I use their product b/c my mom used it in her house, so when it came time for me to buy my own, that's what I picked.
Anyway, I don't understand the problem. If 53% of Latina women listen to music while they clean, and Spanish pop is the most common music choice.... why is that objectionable? Is listening to music while cleaning a BAD thing? If Clorox had an ad showing a woman cleaning while listening to music somehow be offensive to Hispanics? Would it be somehow insulting if a study showed that Hispanic women tend to clean their homes more often with bleach than other women?
@notthevictim: no, but i don't think this is the only time she's partaken in his behavior - it is normal behavior after all.
It's not wrong for a reformed drunk-driver to speak out, but i think this situation is more like a recreational drug user saying drug use is horrible, immoral, and nobody should do it.
It's not wrong for a reformed drunk-driver to speak out, but i think this situation is more like a recreational drug user saying drug use is horrible, immoral, and nobody should do it.
@allgoodpeople: Even if Anonymous didn't want to sleep with her b/c of her pubes (uh, douchebag much?), I STILL don't think it's relevant to the story. The story could have been edited to say they didn't bang b/c O'Donnell didn't want to, and he was turned off by her behavior/inexperience. Done.
@sbhl: I support publishing the story overall, but the pubic hair should have been edited out. I mean, Jesus, people should be able to keep their pubes to themselves if they want, and it just wasn't relevant to demonstrate her hypocrisy.
@jackpaper: Like TF says, Ted Haggard. Plus the guy in California who was sleeping with contractors for kick-backs and said so on a live mic (doh!). Plus the guy, I think also Cali, who was sleeping with his campaign manager's wife and used like, $50,000 in campaign funds to pay them off. Etc. Etc.
@TF: It's worse than that, I think. Given her stances on sex ed, reproductive rights, etc., she says "I'll tell you what to do with your body, but I'll do whatever I want with my own."
(1) I'm glad to see Gawker directly addressing the issue of why they chose to run this story. I wish Irin Cameron and the staff at Jezebel would have run a similar explanation of their choice to run the Duke Fuck List story, which actually upset a lot of Jez readers, whose concerns and complaints were moved from the post comments.
(2) I like what someone said downthread - she compared running this story to running a story about an anti-gay conservative hiring a rent boy, and that it was anti-feminist to treat this story differently just because the subject was a woman. Word.
(2) I like what someone said downthread - she compared running this story to running a story about an anti-gay conservative hiring a rent boy, and that it was anti-feminist to treat this story differently just because the subject was a woman. Word.
@jespree: Awww, that is really touching!
@vamvaki_poulaki: True, but you wouldn't know that by looking at the post ....
@Valkyrie607votesMizJenkins: I LOVED this movie. It made me so angry, but the way they did it was pretty clever. I also recommend it to everyone to illustrate how fucked up the MPAA is.
I'm sorry, rape scenes and graphic violence truly offend me and it makes me sick these types of scenes are in so many movies. Seeing two guys french kiss, or seeing a woman receive oral sex (I mean, not porno style, but in a regular movie), is not gonna give me nightmares for weeks on end...
I'm sorry, rape scenes and graphic violence truly offend me and it makes me sick these types of scenes are in so many movies. Seeing two guys french kiss, or seeing a woman receive oral sex (I mean, not porno style, but in a regular movie), is not gonna give me nightmares for weeks on end...
@HerdingCats: I don't see anyone with hair that obviously took tons of time to straighten. I have hair that's probably a lot like these girls' and it takes me 5-10 minutes to blow-dry it to look that way. I guess to me drying my hair doesn't seem like a major beauty routine.
@LindsayJoy's MBP is into S+M: I agree it's hard to be a moderator, but CC was on a MAJOR power trip today. Other moderators, like morninggloria, clearly were able to limit themselves to comments that were offensive, aggressive and personal in nature. Ok, people shouldn't be able to come here and call Irin nasty names, call the girl who wrote the ppt nasty names, and say Jezebel sucks, blah blah.
For me personally, I had 2 or 3 comments moved to complaints (which were reasonable criticism of the decision to post this, NOT attacking at all), and then literally, looking at the time stamps from my activity, my comment to another commentater saying, "I wonder who can remove CurtCole's star" led to him removing my star. I bet it made him feel really big since he "won" that argument. Seriously, yesterday felt 9th grade where you get detention for backtalk.
Also, scrolling through many of these complaints, a LOT of the stuff in here is not even explicit criticism of jezebel editorial decision (see blueberrypancake above).
So yeah, my heart doesn't weep for CurtCole, but I appreciate morninggloria's fair approach and reasonable explanation.
#complaints
For me personally, I had 2 or 3 comments moved to complaints (which were reasonable criticism of the decision to post this, NOT attacking at all), and then literally, looking at the time stamps from my activity, my comment to another commentater saying, "I wonder who can remove CurtCole's star" led to him removing my star. I bet it made him feel really big since he "won" that argument. Seriously, yesterday felt 9th grade where you get detention for backtalk.
Also, scrolling through many of these complaints, a LOT of the stuff in here is not even explicit criticism of jezebel editorial decision (see blueberrypancake above).
So yeah, my heart doesn't weep for CurtCole, but I appreciate morninggloria's fair approach and reasonable explanation.
#complaints
@meg9: In other words, Jezebel can dish it but they can't take it.
#complaints
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