Jezebel

I feel sorry for Joy-Anna and Johannah. 16 kids in and they are already doubling up on names.

these ppl are ridiculous. how do they keep track of all of them? i have 13 dwarf hamsters and i can't even keep their names straight all the time.

I want to know how they are going to pay for 17 college educations. Do they have a lottery system? It's your lucky day Jeremiah! You get to go to college!

@bringback: Heh. Especially since it took them 17 children to get to Jennifer.

I'm surprised that Jinger is number 6. You'd think those crazy names pop up at the end.

That's just gross. Are you just animals procreating in hopes that some survive? Ugh.
And this is also why the world is so much more full of stupid people these days. When the Pill came out, the intelligent ones decided to, you know, not have 6 kids if they didn't have to. But the end result is that these people breed like crazy!

@jackieheartsb: I don't think the girls are going to college. I bet they're popping out more kids by 18.

@jackieheartsb:
The homeschooling will extend through college. By the time the 2 year old is a freshman, the oldest will be a professor of homeschoolology herself.

@amyjay: They cheated by spelling "Ginger" with a J.

Also, would the next female baby be called Jezebel?

@SinisterRouge: or maybe they just like children, does it matter how many they have?

...and to think, they say Christians hate sex

the girls all have the copyrighted Homeschool Haircut: poofy bangs, uberlong hair, half-back in a clip.

These people make Catholic beliefs about sex and contraception look logical. Google "full quiver" to see what kind of crazy they are.

This is what you get when you marry a dude named Jim Bob.

@msb2: I'm kind of insulted there's no Jaclyn. Maybe I should suggest it to them.

@jackieheartsb:
Well obviously the girls aren't going to college...

@no.no.notorious:

I think it does, actually. Do you think that these two people can actually devote enough personal attention and guidance that kids need to all 17 of them? I don't think so. I think they're just serial breeders. And I grew up Evangelical Christian. Those people do not like sex.

I don't think mom has a vagina anymore. I picture something like a log flume.

@jackieheartsb: my mom came from a big (catholic) family and they had a choice between braces or college...

she chose braces...

@SarahMC: Oh, sorry, you're right. Women are just incubators in that family. No degree required!

scarry sh*t

Inbreeding to begin in...

@jackieheartsb: As others said, the girls are not going to college. For the boys that do go, it will all be paid for by Uncle Sam- read: your tax dollars at work!
The Duggars' whole existence is subsidised. They live on food donations from Sysco, donation money gathered by thier church, donations sent by other Evangelicals, their house was made from donated lumber and building supplies, they get mad tax credits. Essentially, they do all the work building their house & such, but the rest of the world pays for these uber-breeders to spawn like cockroaches.
These people are the mooches that keep on mooching.

@SinisterRouge: Absolutely. Not to mention that people are not SUPPOSED to have that many children, overpopulation is one of the myriad of reasons why our environment is so effed up. Ideally, you replace yourself and your spouse/partner/etc. when you procreate...so people should have 2 children. Of course, some have none, some have 4, but it should all balance out. These people are just greedy and stupid. And I will add my sadness for mom's nether regions.

@SinisterRouge: well theres plenty of latino families that are huge and they're the closest knit families. maybe the two parents can't devote alot of time to each individual child but the older children help which also develop a bond. if you've seen the show 'big families' most of these kids learn how to "do their part for the family" at a young age

ps. i think you have to sort of like sex to have 17 children and plan on having more. just because we don't like to show everyone our underwear doesn't mean we don't like sex

@ediebeale:
Exactly. I really like kids...a whole lot. Doesn't mean that I 'm gonna go out and have 19 because I like kids. These people's existence will definitely be subsidized by us all. Just like the McCaughey (sp?) septuplets. Why does most of America feel that it's okay to donate to these serial breeders that choose to have this many children? I say, you decided to have this many, take care of all of them.
These people get by because of the Evangelical angle...it's churches that support them...and of course us. The same Evangelicals that demonize any sort of financial assistance to poor black, brown and even white kids that aren't Evangelical like them.

@BiscuitDoughJones:
There was a case here in Spain about 10 years ago; a couple who already had a couple of kids had in vitro (I think on public health)ended up with sextuplets and begged for help with clothes, diapers, food, and public housing. And then I think of all the single women I've known who decide to have one kid alone and then get shit for being irresponsible. Or women I know who don't have kids cause they're alone and a are afraid they don't earn enought to raise the kid with enough security.

have a bunch a kids so you don't have to pay property taxes: [www.arktimes.com]

Isn't it great that us non-Jesus freaks can also have sex 17 times in our lives (maybe even more!), and still get to choose how many kids come out?

This family creeps me the hell out. It just feels wrong.

@BiscuitDoughJones: I'm sorry, then it is time to start taking kids away. If you insist on having more kids then you can support - and at 17 we aren't talking about an 'oops' kid - then you should have to give them up. Not to mention the mental health questions....

@no.no.notorious:
Oh, honey, actually I am Latino. So I know a whole lot about big, close-knit families. Being a Latino woman, I know a whole lot more about the role of women in that kind of family. And it's across the board...every Latino family I've ever known is this way. My sister and I did the housework, we were the second mother, we got jobs out of high school to support the family and help pay the rent. We couldn't go to college, but my brothers did. They have a lot of kids because they think they have to, when in fact, it's probably one of the biggest problems holding Latinos back. You're always behind the eight ball with all the kids...you can never get ahead.

And what kind of kid wants to be a farmhand in their family? I most certainly didn't.

Between James and Justin, mom missed a year. Then the Viagra kicked in.

They're just like Brad and Angelina.

@msAnthrope:

i like your comparison to small childern and hamsters. eat sleep poop be erratic ... yup sounds like kids !

@Leiakat: I've also read that people's genetic material starts to break down w/ the more children they have. The youngest kids down the line are the least genetically close to the parents. It's nature's way of trying to spread the gene pool in order to counter fools like this.
However, the genetic breakdown also results in deformity and retardation- the more kids you have, the riskier it is that they'll be damaged in such a way.
I know a fam who had 9 kids, they get less brilliant down the line, the last one being mildly retarded and, get this, BORN W/O AN ASSHOLE!
I'm not afraid of what the Duggars will do to the planet, b/c odds are that more than 1/2 of those kids are sterile.

"We'd love to have more," Michelle said, referring to baby girls. "We love the ruffles and lace."
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Another interesting article: All That Girl Talk Could be Bad for Teens
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"Girls who discuss their problems extensively with friends may be at increased risk of developing depression and anxiety symptoms, a new study suggests."

"In contrast, boys who discussed problems with their friends reported more positive friendships and had no increased risk of developing emotional difficulties."

Fuckers!

I totally agree that they are being irresponsible, and it sounds like they like all the attention they get from having more kids than anyone else. Hooray! Even if the kids are OK, it's flat-out irresponsible to bring that many people into the world - particularly that many american people, since we each use something like 8x the resources of people in other parts of the world. And I've known big families with 10 kids, all the kids get college scholarships or aid if they want it. I have no idea why we choose to subsidize that particular lifestyle. All the racist conservatives out there who like to go on about "welfare queens" (ie black people) having more babies to get more welfare have no problem whatsoever with these people because they're Christian??? Effed up on so many levels.

It's in times like these that I think of Chris Rock.

PUT THE DICK DOWN!

Them crazy Christians keep getting crazier!

Sweet Jesus, this woman's uterus must look like Hamburger Helper.

Jim Bob and his amazing baby-shooting vagina are populating the Army of Compassion. Before too long they are going to out number us, and we are going to be screwed. Our only hope is to keep them pushed into the red states that don't have that much pull on the electoral college. I'm looking at you, Utah!

@SinisterRouge: Hmmm...in my hispanic family it was nothing like this. Education was the number one priority for everyone, and we all went to college, just like mom and dad. So maybe not so many sweeping statements?

At the rate this family is going, they may just end up using 'Jyna!

I think they're trying to compensate for all the country's abortions. Keep reaching for that rainbow!

Hey eds, it's me, the girl who emailed, too scared to comment. You said, "fuck those other bitches" so here I am. Maybe it's because I'm from Arkansas, but I felt like someone should defend the Duggars. Do I want to kidnap poor be-mulleted Michelle and give her a makeover, a spa day, and a pack of Ortho Tricyclen? Of course. But I respect this family's right to make their own choices about how many kids to have.

Why are ya'll all bitching about them having too many kids, when if you read about them, you'd know that they support their family well, the kids are all well adjusted, and I'm told by a friend who knows them, very normal. If YOU can choose NOT to have kids, why can't they choose to have as many kids as they can support?

Also, about college, the oldest son is already in college, and I bet all of their kids will go to college. The family has money, and there are plenty of scholarships available for smart hard-working kids.

I'm not an evangelical Christian, I wouldn't have that many kids, and I wouldn't want to homeschool them or dress like that. But damn if ya'll aren't quick to hate on this family just for having a lot of kids.

@fulanita:
I specifically said the Hispanic families I have come across and mine in particular-- perhaps because my parents and those we were near were more house-cleaner, landscaper types, not college going types. And this type of Latino family is more likely to have more kids than not. That is a fact. As is the fact that having so many kids impairs them financially from ever coming out of the poverty line.
Also, how many siblings do you have? I have 4.

@La Madrugada: Good lord, that was not a good mental image to leave with right before my lunch break.

@BiscuitDoughJones: I've read many time you are supposed to give you body at least a years rest before having another child, so it can recoop what it needs to properly form the fetus. Now if you have 2 kids close together it probably is ok, but when you have that many kids without rest for your system you are just playing Russian Roulette with baby.

Your vagina is not a clown car.

I think with each new kid, the Discovery Channel shoots another show = payday for the Duggars (in addition to the other subsidies they abuse). Jim Bob actually brags about how they live debt free (how they made their initial income through vague "real estate" dealings sounds very shady, btw).

We all know the girls aren't going to college, but good luck to the boys getting accepted - Michelle is their science teacher after all.

She does make a mean tater tot casserole, though.

Ugh. It feels so irresponsible. Why should you keep having children you can't support? If you live solely off of subsidies and donations, maybe that's a clue that you should stop and worry about providing for your current family? I saw one of their specials on Discovery Health and it scared me. Mrs. Duggar's uterus is so stretched out that it never regains its original shape, and the babies inside literally just twist and flip because the uterus is too big. The parents also hardly ever spend time with the children individually...the older children are put in charge of the younger ones. And I think they sleep like 6 to a bedroom...those kids don't even have a slight chance of being normal.

@no.no.notorious: ...but the older children help which also develop a bond. Yes, I come from that sort of situation. It's the bond of having no respect for your parents. My mom, when my sister asked her, said she never really thought about it much whenever she got pregnant -- she just did, and whatever happened, happened. What happened was welfare, WIC, and whatever else she could wangle out of the government. My generation's all had very small families by choice, and even just comparing photos, you can tell their kids are happier and more carefree.

And if the kids are only a year or two apart, that means the mom isn't breastfeeding, which has a natural birth control effect to prevent things like this. So it boggles the mind that the parents think birth control is "unnatural," but still feed babies with formula instead of what naturally comes out of the tit. I don't mean to ignite the
whole "formula versus breastmilk" debate, but if you're going to crusade against unnatural (ie: gay, single, etc) sex acts and childrearing, shouldn't you live by the code?
Oh, and who wants to bet when some militant Christianist crashes these boards and tries to start a flame war? I say 5 pm, but it is a Friday.

Ugh. This article makes me sad for my niece and nephews...my sister is Mormon, and they want a large family. They already have three, but they want a couple more (she told me once they want a small family, with only 5 or so kids).

My niece is already completely indoctrinated into the reproduce & replenish the earth mentality...when she was three, she asked if I had a baby, and when I said I didn't, she asked if that was because I was "looking for a righteous husband." Gahhhh!!!

These freakshows live in our vicinity. Michelle came into my husband's furniture store (a high-end, very expensive place) and asked for them to give her furniture. Just give her whatever she wanted to furnish their giant freak house. I guess they were supposed to jump at this opportunity? They didn't. They flat out told her no.

I feel so sorry for those children. They have no idea what it is like to be a normal kid. The older ones are raising the younger ones and the younger ones are being groomed to raise the next dozen or so she pops out. They need to be stopped. People this stupid shouldn't be allowed to procreate, never mind do it 17 times.

Hopefully an angel will come down and tell Jim Bob that God's will is not actually manifested on earth through his erect cock, sometime before Michelle's uterus falls right out of her body.