So who all bared butt on SATC?

Poor Kim Cattrall. I wish she could stop with all the trash talking, makes her look really cheap. Silence can be golden. She just sounds BITTER at the time. :(

Jami Lynn's first dance will be to "White Wedding".
There will be a chocolate fountain at the reception in the church basement, where no one will mention the pregnancy.

@gold_gato: Was it John Slattery?

Seriously. Maybe other people can't fake it, but she doesn't have that excuse. She's an actress; she needs to act like she knows how to act.

I want to like her. :(

@robot ninja spy: That was in response to @princessxenu.

As far as I'm concerned, driving drunk, esp. with passengers, is just as bad as firing a loaded gun at someone. 8 months is not enough time. I've know folks to get longer times for much less. But they aren't rich or famous, among other things.

I don't know if I can adequately convey my complete, ugly hatred of parents who urge their children to get married because of a pregnancy. It makes me sick. When I was a few months pregnant (after being dumped by that dad) we got back together--my judgment was impeded like nobody's business--and I went to see my aunt. She urged the BF to marry me, and even warned us of the "stigma" the baby would have from being a little bastard. On the freeway on the way home, the BF pulled over and asked me to marry him. We were so desperate, confused and impressionable. Thanks to a long engagement, I never ended up marrying a man I couldn't be in love with, and making one of the bigger mistakes of my life. Point being, pregnant kids are often desperate for guidance from their elders, and this is some shit-tay advice.

It's good to know that Nick is getting off with more than just a slap on the wrist. Street racing is so effing dangerous--for more than just the people IN the car. And the fact that he was supposedly more worried about his street-racing cred than his friend (supposedly posted on his MySpace page) made me livid. I also hope it's not true that Nick didn't have insurance on the car he totaled, thus forcing the cost of care on to his friend's parents.

@ceejeemcbeegee (AKA!): I agree. Almost nothing makes me more furious. But, um, at least its not 21 days?

Nick drag-races after drinking and sends someone to a nursing home, possibly for the rest of his life, and he gets 8 months???

And what's the fucking point of forcing a teenager to marry her baby's daddy? You know they'll be divorced within a couple of years and everyone already knows she was single when the child was conceived.

@ceejeemcbeegee (AKA!): What's worse is he will probably serve less than half of that. Anything more than two weeks would shock me.

@susie_drew: My cousin got his high school GF preggers. They got married and ended up having 2 kids. They just celebrated their 30th anniversary, so some people make it.

@ceejeemcbeegee (AKA!): Fuck YES. I keep hearing a lot of "Well, he decided to catch a ride home from a drink driver, he's partially at fault," and I agree -- but one moron will be punished for his actions for the rest of his life, and one will spend 4 months in a cushy, one-man cell and spend the rest of his life forgetting about his injured friend. NOT fair.

@badmutha:

Yeah, but I think the advice should be "Do you want to get married?" not "ZOMG your child will be a bastard that will be ostracized forever if you don't!", you know?

I have friends who were single parents young. One of them got married, and their daughter is gonna be 6, and they are really happy in their relationship. It is not "I was forced into this because of the baby", but more like "The baby made us rush getting married by about 1 year, but this is where we'd be anyway". But in some cases, getting married would just be adding another unplanned event that is a lot more undesirable than the pregnancy.

@Tea Em Gee Eff: Since he's under 18, and presumably still a dependent, his parents could be sued and required to pay the damages - and if the car is uninsured ... well, I hope Nick can adjust to life unlicensed! (sorry, I'm an insurance geek - can't help it!)

@cinemaddict:
@Jan74:
@badmutha:

Word all around. Everyone is different. some make it, some don't.

My cuz is going shotgun with the babydaddy that she has 'meh' feelings for because a) she doesn't want her child to be a bastard, and b) who else would want to marry a single mother?

::head explodes::

@scarletvirtue (ΣΣΣ): Duh ... his license has been revoked for 3 years.

Yes, I kin reed jist fyne - damn those Fridays!

@scarletvirtue (ΣΣΣ): Ah...good to know. I heard a few months ago that the injured kid's father was denouncing the divorce between Hulk and Linda as a means to divide assets and potentially limit the amount of money for care that the passenger could receive.

@ceejeemcbeegee (AKA!): @susie_drew: @jenndavo: Seriously, his sentence should be harsher. Plus, do I remember correctly that he was pulled over earlier that evening? Let alone ticketed for racing recently. I'll have to look that up, but point is, even if your dad is the hulk, if you drive drunk and put your friend in a vegetative state for life, your punishment should be fitting and just. And while his friend shouldn't have got into the car, blaming him is irrelevant. Son Hulk could have killed total strangers in another car/on the street. And if he had, would he then have been charged appropriately?

Just to clarify, I was commenting on how this is a relatively long sentence for a pseudo-celeb. I was actually more impressed with the five years of probation with no alcohol.

@Tea Em Gee Eff: I heard that, too, and I really hope that is not true. That would be cold-blooded.
@scarletvirtue (ΣΣΣ): I just hope that he isn't like the rest of his ilk, and just drives without the license, hoping that if he is pulled over, and he can pull "but my dad is Hulk Hogan" card and let go with a warning. And if he does get caught driving without a license, can we rig it so he has to go before Judge Judy?

@ceejeemcbeegee (AKA!):

The "who would want to marry a single mother?" part is so dangerous for her. Cause if he were to turn out to be a shit husband, or even abusive, she'd stay in the marriage.

I've heard a similar line from my sister-in-law so many times. "Who would want a divorced woman?" Aside from the numerous infidelities of her husband, the public humiliation of everyone knowing (he is in the Navy and they used to live on base, so not much of a secret), when she got proof of a 3-year-affair he's been carrying on (including supporting the mistress) on a voice mail message, he physically abused her to destroy it, so she couldn't use it in a divorce. And she is still with him, cause you know, blahblahblah divorced woman stupidcakes.

@badmutha: That's great to hear! I never meant to imply that those in a situation like this can't make it work. I do think that pressuring Jamie Lynn to get married when she isn't ready for marriage or is no longer in love with Casey is to put them on a fast track to divorce. Raising a child is hard enough without the added pressure of being married when you wish you weren't.

@jenndavo:
@AbbyNormal:
@BlondeGrlz:

Word! maybe it's just me or how I was raised (growing up Black in LA), but you DO. NOT. give the cops a reason to pull you over, let alone arrest you. I made that mistake ONCE. I will never drive even if I have just a SIP of booze.

@Jan74: Holy crap, Jan. :( Is he still in the Navy? The least of his worries was her using that tape against him in a divorce, because proof like that would have gotten him in seriously trouble with his higher-ups. Of course, if she stayed with him, his losing rank would have hurt her financially, too. But damn...it breaks my heart to hear of women being abused and taking it because they think they will be alone for the rest of their lives.

Ugh...so stabby towards scumbag men like that.

@Jan74: Arrgh! That is SO frustrating to hear! I hate it when women spout this billshit!

I'm turning 33 next week, and I have been inundated with "hurry up and find a hubby/have a kid before it's too late" messages recently. The consensus is that I'm too educated and too successful to be appealing to any man. WTF?

@ceejeemcbeegee (AKA!): Especially since, in California, anyway, cops can arrest you during a traffic stop and impound your car in order to search it, without any need of probable cause. Even if you are squeaky clean, you're in for a major hassle. And you know LA cops disproportionately pull over Black and Hispanic drivers based on racial profiling and assumptions that there are likely drugs or weapons in the car. When I lived in Long Beach, I saw this happening daily.
And frankly, driving drunk isn't worth it. It only takes one mistake.

@BlondeGrlz: What pregnancy? Oh darlin', that's just a little weight she put on from the pre-wedding jitters!

These things have been proven as fact in court papers that were filed in Florida. Nick's family continues to pay John's medical bills, a condo for John's mother, John's brother college tuition, John's mother's father funeral expenses and other bills they have had presented to them. The only bill they have now refused to pay are those of John's father. This is due to the fact of the restraining order that John's mom had to take out against him and the bad blood between him and the families.
Even in the case today his sister talked about when John was in the Marines John sending his check home to support his family. John had not seen his father in years and that was who Brooke was referring to in her statement about who John had talked her about and who should be ashamed.

As far as teens getting married due to being pregnant I would have probably had a fit if my daughter had mentioned getting married due to being pregnant. For me I would have encouraged her to wait until after the baby was born and she had time to get herself in a place to have her head in a better place.

@ceejeemcbeegee (AKA!): Happy early birthday! Fuck the haters. It's not your fault you haven't found a man who can keep up with your fabulous self and not be intimidated by your incredible intellect, numerous accomplishments, and astounding wit.

Good that Nick is doing some prison time. His friend was nearly killed and his parents should've taken away his license and driving privileges when he got tickets.

@AbbyNormal: True story: my friends's cousin was pulled over last Saturday night. He's 19, drives his mom's beat up Volvo, and looks like Chris Brown. Guess what the first thing the cop asked him? "Do you have any nuclear weapons in your vehicle?"

WTF?!?!?

The cop ordered him out the car, cuffed him, searched the vehicle. When he found nothing, he let him go without so much as a ticket or warning.

@Political Party Girl: Awww... (((Political Party Girl)) You are the best!

@ceejeemcbeegee (AKA!): Sweet merciful crap. Honestly, I would have started laughing when he asked that, which would have made things much worse. I'm glad they let him go on his way, but that shit pisses me off so much. And so many young people don't know that if a cop asks to search the vehicle, you can say no. Of course, now they can use some ridiculous umbrella of Homeland Security or some such nonsense to conduct their illegal search and seizures. And don't get me started on forfeiture laws.

@AbbyNormal: Its practically my mantra that if a cop asks, say no. Don't answer any questions, innocent or not. I used to work at the DA's office. I've seen it.

@AbbyNormal: He was ticketed like FOUR TIMES for the same kind of shit. And he's been pulled over a bunch of other times, but since Daddy was in the car with him he got off with a warning.

The media outlet I work for broadcast the entire hearing today, and every time I saw Nick's face I felt sick. What a spoiled brat he is.

@Jan74: Let me talk to your friend. Seriously. There ain't a damn thing wrong with getting divorced, and in fact, when you get divorced from a shitheel husband who thinks its fun to treat you like dirt, it's an exhilarating feeling I imagine is pretty much akin to busting out of jail.

Plus, the whole idea of divorced = ruined is, like, so fifty years ago. Seriously. Let me talk to her.

@Tea Em Gee Eff: I don't know how the law would work in that instance - especially in Florida - but I'd assume / hope that the law and the insurance companies that get dragged into it go by the date of the loss, and not the date the suit was filed! (oh sweet baby Jebus ... I really am a geek, and I need to get a hobby or ten.)

@AbbyNormal: I'd hope not, too - but I doubt that would happen! And yes, if he does get in trouble for it; I recommend, and demand, even, that Judge Judy be the one to hear the case!

@whynotshesaid: FOUR times?!? And the jackass got away with it, every time, because daddy was in the car with him and the cops were starstruck idiots. That's really fucked up, to say the least.

@RedHotz: Thanks for the info on that! I had tried to google it a couple of months ago and couldn't find anything other than the rumors.

@whynotshesaid: And then let me talk to her! My hubby has heartbreaking stories to tell of women under his command/married to someone under his command in the Air Force that took absolutely horrific abuse but wouldn't press charges, and continued to stay with the abuser. There is so much you can do to protect yourself, and usually the military command structure is more than willing to help you.

I'd also love to see the abuser busted down--if not jailed--for the physical abuse...but that's just my stabby, stabby ways.

@ceejeemcbeegee (AKA!): Happy birthday!!!

@RedHotz: Ah, yes, I remember you! You wrote a comment a while back on how when your daughter got pregnant, you fully supported her throughout the pregnancy, and after. I still remember that comment, and it still makes me really happy that there are some awesome, supportive moms out there like you.

@Tea Em Gee Eff:@ceejeemcbeegee (AKA!): @whynotshesaid:

Yeah, she is still with him and he is still in the Navy. I don't think he'd have lost rank cause his dad is Army but has been the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, so he has a lot of political clout. He was, however, terrified of his dad finding out and of the ass-whooping he was gonna get.

He is horrible, and she knew it going into the marriage. When they were engaged, she studied in a different city 2h away and only came to where he lived on the weekends. He had another woman living in his apartment, 3 months before the wedding. He'd make her get up to get him a beer when she was 8 months pregnant and he was right by the damn kitchen, and she'd do it. At the time they were living on base, she had a couple of other women knock on her door late at night to ask if she wanted to join them cause they were going to a brothel to get their husbands back. WTF? My head explodes with shit like that.

And she makes more money than he does (she is a dentist), and still puts up with this crap because she thinks divorce will devalue her and because she lost her virginity to him and then thought she had to marry him. She makes me just as stabby as he does, and sorry at the same time.

Also, my husband tells her exactly what whynotshesaid said: He has spent the past 8 years saying "This is not the 1930s. People get divorced. It is ok" and also, "Your husband is a jackass and you deserve better" and all that. Hasn't worked.

@Jan74: Sounds like we need BangieB and her Country Justice truck to take on this dude.

Seriously, though. One way that MAY open her eyes to the severity of the situation is if they have children. If they do, I would think about letting her know that by staying with her abusive husband, she is teaching her children that it's okay to 1) treat people like that, and 2) be treated like that. Hopefully the mama-bear in her will love her children enough to break the cycle of abuse.

I'm so sorry that she's allowing herself to get hurt like that. It really just breaks my heart.

@Tea Em Gee Eff:

She has two kids, who are emotionally neglected by the father and deal with it the way they can. The girl is 12, and she internalizes it, so she overeats and is a people-pleaser, the doormat type girl who gets taken advantage of by the mean girls in junior high. I hope against all I know that when she starts dating, she won't be with someone abusive, but I know the odds of that.

The boy is 10, and he acts out by fighting in school. Also, he pooped his pants until 9 or so, no kidding. The refusal to potty train to get attention is something that we (my mother-in-law too) tried to get them to get him help for, but they "don't believe in psychology", and a regular doctor suggested laxatives, but that was gonna make the child gay. I wish I were kidding, but in his sick mind, that is how it works. I got shit once for cooking dinner while babysitting and getting the boy to help, for the same reason.

Anyway, it makes me sad but we got to a point where we just had to remove ourselves from the situation. Being around his sister would send my husband into depression. Just talking to her on the phone puts him into a 3-day slump.

I don't geddit, as if any of the actors on SATC would have a big ass??

Not eating for weeks, gym and shit?