According to the LA Times, Mandy Gresh, 28, and her boyfriend decided to go on a little vacation to Quebec City. She booked plane tickets and a hotel room for a four-day weekend. Sounds great, right? Well, Mandy and her boyfriend had been together for six weeks. Mandy tells the paper: "I was like, 'Oh my god, the trip is as far away as we've been dating. Hopefully nothing goes wrong in the next month because we're both going to be out a lot of money!'" Guess what? Mandy and her man had a great time, and they're not the only ones who are into the idea of the "holidate." A recent poll revealed that 50% of men and 41% of women said they would take a trip within the first two months of dating. Um, is it me or is that just not enough time? I bought a pair of shoes 2 months ago and I still don't know if I want to keep them. Lord knows I wouldn't take 'em on vacation. In Canada.
But apparently the "holidate" is all the rage. Fairmont, a luxury chain of hotels, has packages designed for new couples — including "icebreaker" specials. Nothing says "I'd like to get to know you better" like a quick trip to the Caribbean! Here's the thing: Traveling is tricky business. Traffic sucks, gas is expensive, airports are hellish, hotel rooms can be cramped. Yeah, yeah, I know, you love adventure! And you love your new guy! Trust: A missed connecting flight or a wrong turn on a thruway can bring out the beast, turning your dream man into a nightmare. And that's just getting there. Wait until you're both tired and sunburned with morning breath and diarrhea and someone's disgusting bathroom habits and inability to read a map surface. No, seriously: Going away with a dude is totally romantic. Or at least, it can be. But is it a good idea to travel with someone you've been dating for six weeks? Are you asking for trouble? Is it an expensive "road test"? And how long should you be dating someone before you "holidate" together? (Not an overnight tip, not a weekend trip. A long weekend trip, a few hundred miles out of town. Three nights, minimum.)
Giving New Relationships The Road Test [LA Times]













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Please, if he's paying for the date, I'll go anywhere.
My boyfriend and I had our first long weekend after a few months. A week in Tulum after a few more months.
Now we're so poor we can't go anywhere.
You need a choice about how good the travel insurance is. Does it cover cancellations for hating the person you're booked with?
My bf and I were together for 3 months before we went away together, and we had a great time. It's probably a good indicator, at 3 months, how serious things are going to be. If we hated each other after that, we'd have broken up. But the trip was awesome and we're still together 8 years later.
Also: Quebec City is beautiful and they have sugar pie there, as well as hot cocoa that tastes like it came off the bloody Polar Express. Je me souviens!
@Pinkosaurus: If you're stuck having paid.....take a friend!
Anybody wanna go on a date to Thailand with me?
Renting a car with my boyfriend to drive 3 hours nearly ended our relationship. I let him drive, despite having only my name on the insurance, and was tortured by images of myself having to pull his bleeding, unconscious body into the passenger seat.
I know that I am le crazy.
My boyfriend and I went on our "Holidate" 9 months into the relationship.
Florida, 5 days, "Tons o' fun."
Luckily, we had a blast.
Then again, 9 months is quite a bit more than 6 weeks. That's TOO soon in my book.
@hortense: Have you been to Montreal? Which would you recommend between Montreal and QC? I've only been to Vancouver in Canada but would really like to try another city, and I've heard nothing but good things about Montreal....
if you arent comfortable enough to pee with the door open in front of someone you shouldnt go on vacation with them yet
Anybody else in the Boston area do the "Go to Martha's Vineyard In the Depth of Winter Because It's Soooo Cheap" thing?
I did that on a Holi-date, and it was a rousing success, but I think that's because it turned out we both like to eat fudge while never leaving the hotel room ever ever ever because it's frigid. I was luck.
This topic reminds me of Cosmopolitan Magazine.
Ugggg. Here's your answer: however long you feel like it. There are no dating rules. Period.
A dirty weekend away is always fun, a two week holiday in the sun however is a different matter.
My boyfriend now, I would have gone anywhere within the first minute. Okay, first week.
It totally depends on the relationship!!
I practically started living with my current partner at 3 weeks, conversely, I've been with people 3 months that I barely ever stayed overnight with...
quantum relativity of relationships? time to super couple-y things is inversely proportional to affection and compatability...
I reccently went on a holi-date with a guy I had been seeing for about six weeks. While, the actual holi-date was fantastic (just a quick weekend away in monterey for two san franciscans) it happened to early in the context of our fling, thus skewing both of our ideas of the state of the union.
Get it? I was luck. Because I am a lady. And Luck be a Lady. No, I am just a bad typer. Sry guise.
@Archetype: I have never been to Montreal but I've heard it's a lot of fun. Quebec City is a really lovely place, though.
Two months seems right but then again I moved 600 miles away from home with Mr. Spaceman 6 months after meeting him.
I did the holidate, about a month in. Last minute cruise deal. We lied to the people we were seated with at dinner, saying we'd been together for longer, because even WE thought it was a little nutso. It was actually an awesome little vacay. Highly recommend, as long as you know the dude isn't serial killer material.
I think after 3 months going on a "Holidate" is perfectly fine. What better way to stress test a relationship?
I went on a weekend trip with my (ex)boyfriend to a Animal Reserve and it showed me ALOT about how he was in public, with people, dealing with time issues, staff...all sorts of things I didn't see on dates or just generally being with him.
Plus traveling is a big deal to me in a relationship, I wanna know soon if I can be in the car with someone for 8 hrs or if I need to bring headphones or a book each and every time.
We went to Chicago for my birthday four months after we met. But we planned it a lot earlier. I think he was frightened of the rage I exhibited when the AirTran lady told me I "wasn't [her] problem" when I found out I'd miss my connection and be stranded in Atlanta alone (we were long distance, and still are).
But the rest of the trip was fun and we got an extra night of sex!
@Purpled: I love quantum physics.
I met one of my exes on a "holidate" although it began as a chaste one. We worked at the same company in different offices, and I mentioned one day that I was traveling to SF to visit a friend. He said his brother lived there and he had been meaning to visit him. So we made arrangements to meet out there, and for two months in between, carried on a heavy email and phone flirt.
We met up on Monday, spent the entire week together (except for a couple of meals with our respective hosts) and by Friday we were shopping for china. We were together for 2 1/2 years.
@Archetype: Definitely Montreal over Quebec City.
@scrumtrulescent: Aww, that really made me smile. Thanks for that end-of-day happyboost!
@Archetype: Montreal, hands down. People are more inclined to speak English there instead of snarking at you in Quebecois. Not that I've ever snarked at people in Quebecois on school trips. *shifty eyes*
I say go on a holidate as early in the relationship as you want. Of course, I moved in with my now-husband after only knowing him two months.*
*Not recommended for most people.
@hortense: 3 months is generally the "make it or break it" for relationships and most people know by then if they're sticking around or running for the hills.
I just did one of these recently. After a month. It went fine, but I kinda want out of the relationship--it made things move too quickly.
@TwiceShy: Thai do! (It had to be said)
I went on a long weekend trip with my (now) husband after just a few months, but I certainly wouldn't have done that with some of the other guys I've dated. I'm not sure it's about the time that has passed as much as it is about the person that you're dating.
@Archetype: Montreal is the hot restaurant city in North America right now. Very European. Quebec City is fun, but a lot more touristy, and colder. Do them in that order.
@Archetype: I've been to both and much preferred QC. But, you do have to speak a little French or the natives will be rude to you.
@FullSpeedLohan: Or take a crap with the guy somewhere in the general vicinity
@FullSpeedLohan: Then hubs and I are still too shy after 2 years of marriage. I know what you mean, though, it's only in the last few months that he feels OK digging through my purse looking for gum. He was freaked out about it til I pointed out it was marital gum. Which means I also carry marital tampons and marital lipstick, but whatevs.
@Archetype: Can I butt in? I highly recommend Montreal. I went to university in Quebec. August and September are especially awesome in Montreal, and there's a jazz fest, which I think is in July.
@FullSpeedLohan: i will never be comfortable enough for that.
My husband and I went on a holidate to Key West about one month after we started dating. It was where we fell in love.
We got married after dating six months, though, so I would assume we are not the norm. I agree that it is about the person you are dating, not about how much time has passed.
no. no. no. no.
My longest relationship to date was a year and a half, and I would not go with him to NEW JERSEY.
No.
@KidPresentable: @Dauphine: @brendastarlet: @hortense: Thanks much. I've heard Montreal feels very European. I've also heard that you can bring your own wine to restaurants for no charge. I think that's what sold me.
@sjct: @MaMaMoose: Thank you for your input as well.....and anyone else who chimes in moving forward :-)
@lewbers: Whoa! Crazy! Then again, me and my BF moved in together after 8 months of dating.
As a born and bred Montrealer, I have to say do Montreal first and Quebec City second. Or go to Montreal in May-June/September/October and then go to Quebec City in February and see Bonhomme!
@mepo: Amen! Went on a long weekend with the current boyfriend to St. Croix only 3 weeks after we had the exclusivity talk, and I agreed to go before then. Grand total of having been talking to eachother on the phone for a month before deciding on the getaway. Its like all the sex of a honeymoon without the annoyance of the commitment.
If you go on a "holidate" are you officially no longer a "freemale"? Sheesh, media, quit with the faux-cabulary!
I'm hopefully going on the first holidate in July, which will be four months into it. Except, I just want to go to Key West for the Hemingway festival and get schnockered all weekend, while he's now talking about possibly the Bahamas with his brother. It's kind of still a "let's see how things go" thing, but I'm totes not going if it's gonna be a holidate-plus-brother deal. No thanks.
@RyanB: Confession, my boyfriend and I moved in VERY soon after dating as well. He bought a house. Of course, now we're stuck in said house because the market went into the crapper. But I still love him!
This article has caused Eddie Money's "Two Tickets to Paradise" to begin playing in my head... make it stop!!!
As a person who had already booked the "come home with me and meet my parents" tickets ON MY CREDIT CARD to find out I was being cheated on, I say don't do it until at least a year.
My parents were married within 11 weeks of the first date, I'm not the one to ask.
That being said, the only true holiday I've gone on with a bf (going to weddings don't count) we had been together 2 and 1/2 years and had pretty much decided to break up anyway. It was still a great trip, we were just more like friends on it than lovers (compounded by Europe's love affair with the twin bed).